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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 2, 2005 22:56:57 GMT -5
Justin Tyme is scheduled for the first installment of Straight Shoot'n With......
The interview will be conducted a few days before its release. No holds barred. Here Justin Tyme comment on numerous topics including:
1. His relationship With Johnny Arsenic
2. What he really thinks of Arsenic?
3. The incident that occurred in WFWF, that led to the breakup of ATM
4. Hear Justin's side concerning why he almost quit Valor
5. Justin will make some SHOCKING comments about a number of different guys in the business. All this and much more!
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 10, 2005 19:24:27 GMT -5
Kevin Olberman [5:07 P.M.]: Welcome to the first installement of Straight Shootn' With............
Our Guest This week is Justin Tyme. Justin...welcome to this shoot interview. Glad you could take a few moments and agree to this shoot.
Justin Tyme [5:07 P.M.]: hello old friend
Kevin Olberman [5:08 P.M.]: Just in case no one recognizes my voice, I am Kevin Olberman. Lead play by play announcer for Sunday Night Slam
Kevin Olberman [5:08 P.M.]: Justin, my first question is...how did you break into this business we call professional wrestling and who were some of your influences?
Justin Tyme [5:11 P.M.]: Well, it was about one year ago and some of the people who brought me into the business were my good pal The Good One. I broke into the business when I was spotted for doing some rinky dink shitty promotions. I never got anywhere but I was picked up by the WFWF and.... well the rest is history
Kevin Olberman [5:12 P.M.]: After landing with the WFWF, what made you make a move and also join Valor?
Justin Tyme [5:13 P.M.]: Well, Justin Tyme is a man who has a large thirst for his competition as you see week in and week out, I have to entertain as many fans as I can and joining Valor was another way for me to let more fans know about Justin Tyme.... as though no-one has heard of me.
Justin Tyme [5:14 P.M.]: You know how it feels to not be recognized eh Olberman?
Kevin Olberman [5:14 P.M.]: HA! HA! Very true. Being on the mic, and rarely seen on camera is the life of this play by play announcer.
Kevin Olberman [5:14 P.M.]: Who are some of your closest friends in the business?
Justin Tyme [5:15 P.M.]: Meg, Shane Diamond and Johnny Micheals are all really close as well as Immune and Saku. Hardcastle is growing on me but thats a story for later on
Justin Tyme [5:16 P.M.]: JT has friends out the Ass
Justin Tyme[5:16 P.M.]: wait that didn't sound right
Kevin Olberman [5:16 P.M.]: HA! HA! We definitely want to touch on Eric Hardcastle and Jay Ryan, Head Booker for Valor in a few minutes.
Kevin Olberman [5:16 P.M.]: Who are some of your biggest enemies?
Justin Tyme [5:17 P.M.]: The only man that I absolutly can't STAND is a man who followed me to Valor, Johnny Arsenic
Justin Tyme [5:17 P.M.]: thats the only man
Kevin Olberman [5:18 P.M.]: Why is that?
Justin Tyme [5:21 P.M.]: Because the man is such an unbeleivable prick. I mean, for fuck sakes it's not right to blame Terrorist attacks on the country they happened in. Johnny Arsenic is so uptight as well, he has multiple sticks up the ass and you can't really joke with him that much. If you ask me, I could take the blame for ATM failing but quite frankly why should I take the fall for the guy. If you ask me, his up-tight attitude ruined ATM. sure you can joke with the guy but not much. He was just a nuiecance to be around and I'm glad I don't have to deal with him any more.
Kevin Olberman [5:22 P.M.]: Speaking of ATM, how did the original ATM, Arsenic, Tyme and Meg get started?
Justin Tyme [5:28 P.M.]: Well, I was on a massive losing streak that seemed never ending, political powers, you know how they are. Anyways, I was looking for something to help me and that was the Unholy International Aliance better known as the UIA. I was in there for a little while and a man, Viktor Maunderov, joined UIA and we both won our matches at Superbrawl representing UIA, we were teamed up on a Code Red and, another problem with Arsenic is he changed Gimmicks WAY to often, he never let anything settle. But anyways we decided that we wanted to be like a popular T.V Tag Team and so we wound up going from the Fighters Without Honor of Viktor Maunderov and Justin Tyme, and no matter what way you slice it we had to give an explanation on why we left the UIA so we said we represented UIA better then the leaders. well from the FWH we went to a team named NMM which is a BLATANT rip off but it was Arsenic's idea. I was then Justin Magnesium or something like that. the owners said that was a no-no and had to change it up and thats when we became ATM of Johnny Arsenic, Justin Tyme and Meg. you can see ATM signs al over the place still ya know
Kevin Olberman [5:29 P.M.]: Justin Magnesium?! HA! HA!
Justin Tyme [5:30 P.M.]: Justin Magnesium is no where near as catchy as Justin Tyme
Kevin Olberman [5:31 P.M.]: I actually remember tuning into some WFWF programming and remembered that. Always wondered why you turned into Justin Tyme after. But a good change. What eventually led to the break from Meg?
Justin Tyme [5:35 P.M.]: Well, the first time she got very mad that I clamed leadership status in ATM and I also brought someone new into the group and she was very unhappy about that. I had to explain that the person I brought in was a cabinet member. We talked her back into coming back to ATM but the second time around I am not 100% sure what caused her to leave but I would imagine it had something to do with Arsenic creating Higher Authority and I don't think Meg wanted to be a part of it. I didn't either but I knew it would die quick and I could get on with my career again
Kevin Olberman [5:36 P.M.]: Who was this person you brought on?
Justin Tyme [5:36 P.M.]: My Girlfriend, Elaine
Kevin Olberman [5:36 P.M.]: How did mixing personal world with the business world work out?
Justin Tyme [5:38 P.M.]: It worked out pretty good. She is very comfortable infront of the camera and some of the stuff she says is quite funny. It doesn't really make for a bad "relationship" for the two of us to be together all the time
Kevin Olberman [5:38 P.M.]: Did you guys change the name from ATM to MATE?
Justin Tyme [5:39 P.M.]: *laughs* ah no I would never do something THAT stupid.
Kevin Olberman[5:40 P.M.]: So after the breakup of ATM and you and Arsenic head to Valor.....and after all that has been said and done. Arsenic has been no where to be found for a month now. What do you really think of Johnny Arsenic today?
Justin Tyme [5:44 P.M.]: I think I made it quite clear earlier that I can not stand Johnny Arsenic period. Johnny Arsenic changes Gimmicks more often.....then...... ah I got nothing but he changed his gimmick WAY to much. he never gave anything a chance to play out. the only thing Arsenic let play out is ATM in general. if it wasn't for Arsenics constant gimmick changes I might not have such hatred for the man. He is also very ignorant, He was always pressuring the owners for something. He lashed out at the owners that helped him so much. he is so ignorant and for that I'll finish that topic off with this..... Arsenic is a little bitch.
Kevin Olberman [5:45 P.M.]: WOW! Strong words there. I wonder if Arsenic is watching this shoot interview?
Justin Tyme [5:46 P.M.]: If he is, I have to say this..... Arsenic, FUCK YOU I hope your kids die of cancer and I hope your slut of a wife gets crushed under a bus
Kevin Olberman [5:48 P.M.]: Those are some pretty strong words. I didn't know Arsenic was married? Now you call her a slut.....do you have first hand knowledge of her infidelity?
Justin Tyme [5:49 P.M.]: No, she just looks like a fucking slut. everything involved with Arsenic at this point in time can all die a fucking horrible death. AIDS or something
Kevin Olberman [5:49 P.M.]: I'm glad I'm not Johnny Arsenic. Lets back track a bit. When TWA and ACW merged and became ROI, which would become Valor, what was your reaction then?
Justin Tyme [5:50 P.M.]: Well I never heard of TWA and ACW so really I couldn't give two fucks about that. I am just a man on a mission increasing his fan base and thats what I do best.
Kevin Olberman [5:51 P.M.]: What did you think when Jay Ryan became head booker?
Justin Tyme [5:55 P.M.]: Jay Ryan is alright with me as long as I'm getting some money in the bank. Jay Ryan has the ability to BOOK good but when it comes to the writing staffs job, I feel that it fails in areas sometimes. In all, I feel that Jay Ryan is a good booker
Kevin Olberman [5:55 P.M.]: Explain on the writing staffs job where it is failing
Justin Tyme [5:58 P.M.]: Well, I feel that they are not necisarily using the Justin Tyme charecter, in particular. If you ask me Justin Tyme needs to be getting pushed like Hardcastle. I feel they are pushing Eric Hardcastle a little bit TOO hard. if you push JT that hard, I guarentee, arenas would over sell because people would be hanging off the rafters to see Justin Tyme
Kevin Olberman [6:00 P.M.]: Fair enough. But don't you think that Eric Hardcastle is being pushed as hard as he is, because of the promos he does. Week in and week out, Eric Hardcastle is taking a direct involvement and cutting promos. Justin Tyme is barely heard from. Is it fair to say that is the booker's fault and not Justin Tyme's?
Justin Tyme [6:02 P.M.]: I feel that it IS the bookers fault. when Justin Tyme talks, it's an event and it doesn't 100% bury the opponent. Hardcastle took a perfectly good thing him an Immune had and in one fell swoop, knocked the legs out from underneath of the entire thing. Besides, I think you are being extremely egotistical about it.
Justin Tyme [6:05 P.M.]: Well, Immune did something where Immune and Hardcastle were close childhood friends and it had potential to get going somewhere but Hardcastle completely knocked it right down. I liked where Immune apparently wanted to go with it but I don't like that Hardcastle shot it out of the sky in a sence
Kevin Olberman [6:06 P.M.]: Lets set the record straight. Neither, Immune nor Hardcastle informed the booking committee of this "so called child hood". In fact, I spoke to Eric Hardcastle shortly after Immune's promo aired and he was furious. He never oked this "made up history". Still blame Hardcastle? Sounds more like Immune over stepped his boundaries. Let me ask you this.... When you and Arsenic were a team...what if Arsenic came out and shot a promo saying that you two were in fact gay lovers? Would that be ok with Justin Tyme? Would Justin Tyme roll with the punches?
Justin Tyme [6:09 P.M.]: Justin Tyme would roll the punches. This would be a different case in the Immune/Hardcastle thing, Being 2 childhood friends turned enimies is an entertaining and original idea, Justin Tyme and Johnny Arsenic being "Gay Lovers" would be completely random, and have no potential
Kevin Olberman [6:12 P.M.]: Really? Because I think having a gay tag team could be very entertaining. As evident with WWE, they had Billy and Chuck. Even if you look across the Indys...you see gay wrestlers on almost every card. Gay Lovers makes for good business. So you can honestly say that if Arsenic had decided to do this gimmick without your permission, you would go ahead along with it, even if you had other ideas in mind?
Justin Tyme [6:13 P.M.]: Is this Straight Shootin' With Justin Tyme or Straight Shootin' with Kevin Olberman?
Kevin Olberman [6:14 P.M.]: I'm just asking questions here.
Justin Tyme [6:14 P.M.]: ok no I would not go along with it
Kevin Olberman [6:15 P.M.]: So explain why do you think that Eric Hardcastle should have to go along with it then?
Justin Tyme [6:17 P.M.]: Because I felt that it was an interesting story to go along with. I know if I were in his shoes I would go along with the childhood friends turned enemy story but I'm not Hardcastle
Kevin Olberman [6:18 P.M.]: Fair enough. But don't you think when an angle is put together that all parties should know about it before it hits the airwaves? As far as I am concerned, Immune acted in the wrong. He took an idea and ran with it. He did not bounce the idea off of the bookers or Eric Hardcastle. Subsequently, it was dropped.
Justin Tyme [6:19 P.M.]: I don't disagree with the decision to drop it but spontaneous reactions are always good you have to admit that
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 10, 2005 19:25:01 GMT -5
Kevin Olberman [6:20 P.M.]: Yes, I do. How about going into detail about what almost prompted you to quit Valor almost a month ago?
Justin Tyme [6:25 P.M.]: Well first things first I didn't like the way the results were being conducted. Meg was jobbed out in her last match when yet a lot of people in indies win their last match. another thing, I was disgusted at a certain thing that aired during the show. it showcased a video in which the announcer, aka you and mean mike patrick, showed some inappropriate materials. I do realise it was for comedic relief but it honestly had no place on a Wrestling show. I had a slight argument with Jay and it turned out it was a case of mis-communications of sorts. Jay and I have subsequentially put it to rest in ways
Kevin Olberman [6:27 P.M.]: This isn't the indys though. This is the big time. Why do you think that Meg should have gone over in her last match? What purpose does it serve the company? Lets face it.....the company is most important.
Justin Tyme [6:28 P.M.]: Meg, if she wasn't jobbed out, might have done something for the company outside of the company. Meg deserved better then getting jobbed out in her last match.
Kevin Olberman [6:29 P.M.]: Lets go back to the inappropriate material airing on the inagural edition of Slam. Do you not care to see Brittney Spears in a home made sex video? I know Mean Mike Patrick couldn't wait to get home!
Justin Tyme [6:31 P.M.]: It's not that I don't CARE I just feel it had no place on a wrestling show. It had no place there what-so-ever
Kevin Olberman [6:32 P.M.]: You are entitled to your opinion. Lets move onto Valor's first PPV....Summer Sizzler. As of the date of this shoot interview, we still have 4 men remaining. Any of the 4 you think don't belong there?
Justin Tyme [6:33 P.M.]: I feel Sin City Saint doesn't belong in there. I feel his work isn't as spectacular as a Saku
Kevin Olberman [6:34 P.M.]: Can you elaborate?
Justin Tyme [6:36 P.M.]: I feel his in ring work is lack luster as well as his promos aren't as good as Saku's, Immunes and others. I feel he needs to improve more so on those areas. plus he reminds me of a certain independant wrestler..... I forget his name.....CM Punk?
Kevin Olberman [6:37 P.M.]: I would definitely like to get into this some more. Other than the slight facial resemblance, how does he remind you of CM Punk?
Justin Tyme [6:38 P.M.]: Theme song, his name, his manerisms, his moveset.... need I go on? i feel that justifies why he resembles CM Punk
Kevin Olberman [6:39 P.M.]: Yes please. I agree with you on the theme song. But mannerisms? Moveset?
Justin Tyme [6:40 P.M.]: his finisher is the Top Rope Pedigree...... Pepsi Plunge ring a bell? Shining Wizard and The Suicide Dive are 2 big CM Punk moves Hammerlock into a Clothesline is the Pepsi Twist
Kevin Olberman [6:41 P.M.]: The finisher he uses in Valor is The Saint's Honor
Kevin Olberman [6:41 P.M.]: His version of The Angel's Wings
Justin Tyme [6:42 P.M.]: his entrance is almost exactly the same without throwing up the "X".
Kevin Olberman [6:46 P.M.]: I am not all that familiar with CM Punk, so I cannot comment on the other points you made. But I will take you for your word. Will you change your opinion if The Sin City Saint beats Saku this Sunday and moves onto Summer Sizzler?
Justin Tyme [6:48 P.M.]: No i probably won't. why the fuck would it? I am full fleged behind Saku and will continue to always be behind Saku
Kevin Olberman [6:48 P.M.]: Will it change if he wins the World Title?
Justin Tyme [6:49 P.M.]: no it won't
Kevin Olberman [6:49 P.M.]: I take it that you want Saku to win the World Title. But who do you think will actually walk out of Orlando Florida the World Champ?
Justin Tyme [6:50 P.M.]: I would love to see that. but honestly, I couldn't give two fucks as long as I got my money in my pocket
Kevin Olberman [6:50 P.M.]: So you don't care to actually give us an answer?
Justin Tyme [6:52 P.M.]: Justin Tyme is out for Justin Tyme. Saku is a good friend but when you ask ME what I want to see with Saku and Sin City Saint, I don't see my name there so I don't care. now If you ask me who I want to win the world title between JT, Saku, or CM Punk I would chose Justin Tyme. Oh wait I meant to say Sin City Saint
Kevin Olberman [6:53 P.M.]: Out of the entire roster, who is the one guy that you think should be wearing the belt? And why?
Justin Tyme [6:53 P.M.]: Me
Kevin Olberman [6:53 P.M.]: Of course you do. Lets do a little name association. I throw out a name and you say the first thing that comes to mind. Ready?
Straightedge8565 [6:53 P.M.]: Oh yeah shoot Alex Trebek
Kevin Olberman [6:54 P.M.]: Johnny Arsenic
Justin Tyme [6:54 P.M.]: Punk Ass Fucker
Kevin Olberman [6:54 P.M.]: Meg
Straightedge8565 [6:54 P.M.]: Cool
Kevin Olberman [6:54 P.M.]: Jay Ryan
Justin Tyme [6:55 P.M.]: Who cares
Kevin Olberman [6:55 P.M.]: Steven Lynch
Justin Tyme [6:55 P.M.]: My boss
Kevin Olberman [6:55 P.M.]: Ganador
Justin Tyme [6:55 P.M.]: Nice guy
Kevin Olberman [6:55 P.M.]: Flaps
Justin Tyme [6:56 P.M.]: Best owner in the universe!
Kevin Olberman [6:56 P.M.]: VWA
Justin Tyme [6:56 P.M.]: not WFWF. change the name to something good
Kevin Olberman [6:56 P.M.]: Immune
Justin Tyme [6:57 P.M.]: Meh...
Kevin Olberman [6:57 P.M.]: Meh?
Justin Tyme [6:57 P.M.]: Meh
Kevin Olberman [6:57 P.M.]: What is Meh?
Justin Tyme [6:57 P.M.]: Meh...M-E-H Meh
Kevin OIberman [6:58 P.M.]: For our english viewers, can I get a translastion?
Justin Tyme [6:58 P.M.]: Meh
Kevin Olberman [6:58 P.M.]: What does that mean? Is that a pass?
Justin Tyme [6:58 P.M.]: IT MEANS I DON'T CARE next
Kevin Olberman [6:59 P.M.]: Zmaster
Justin Tyme [6:59 P.M.]: dominating owner
Kevin Olberman [6:59 P.M.]: Eric Hardcastle
Justin Tyme [6:59 P.M.]: JT's bitch
Kevin Olberman [7:00 P.M.]: Most Under rated Valor Superstar
Justin Tyme [7:00 P.M.]: Justin Tyme
Kevin Olberman [7:00 P.M.]: Most Over Rated Valor Superstar
Justin Tyme [7:00 P.M.]: Eric Hardcastle
Kevin Olberman [7:00 P.M.]: Last One.....Justin Tyme
Justin Tyme [7:00 P.M.]: Greatness
Kevin Olberman [7:01 P.M.]: Ok, Justin. That concludes the shoot interview. Thank you for taking the 2 plus hours to sit down with us, answering questions and getting your feelings out on the table.
Justin Tyme [7:02 P.M.]: No problem I'm just happy to be here. Look for Justin Tyme in a town near you
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Post by Bailey on Aug 10, 2005 20:09:43 GMT -5
As a shoot it was confusing...at one point you were playing to the fans, then you were hyping yourself up. If you're a heel, stick to it. I felt it was honest and truthful, so I'll give you that, but what was the deal with the CM Punk comparison?
I thought this shoot was supposed to be in character? We all use wrestler likenesses, so why comment on who Saint uses for his wrestler's likeness? It didn't make any sense, and I personally felt it was unecessary...almost like a blatant cheap shot. I can look at your character and say you have the ability to shape shift. One minute you look like Muhammed Hassan, the next Like Paul London, and I don't like it...but that doesn't mean anything because of the wrestler likeness you use.
I was really looking forward to this shoot, but in the end I was disappointed. A shoot is supposed to be from the heart of the wrestler...not from the ego. Just an opinion. I still like your character a lot, and I think you can really go far, but this shoot could have been much better without the cheap shots on Saint.
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Post by miwwfke on Aug 11, 2005 9:36:09 GMT -5
This was alright. I didn't like that Kevin Olberman seemed to be you, Hardcastle. When Tyme said anything negative about you, you asked him a follow up of five questions about what he thought was wrong AND you even started defending yourself! Olberman needs to stay in character.
A funny part was at the end, with the saying the names part. Hehe...Tyme told you! Olberman got owned. That whole part was pretty funny starting at the Meh part.
And there are some Straightedge8565s that need to be turned into Justin Tyme still.
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Post by Sin City Saint on Aug 11, 2005 21:15:47 GMT -5
ill just this shoot sucked dick. u can have your opinion or whatever, but u suck. brandon said it best in his reply and thanks brandon for sticking up for me. its supposed to be a shoot from justin tyme, not from your dumb ass. if i didnt use cm punk as the pic for my guy, u wouldnt have said that shit. its just dumb. the whole interview was dumb. i was really interested in this, but if every shoot turns out like this 1, i aint reading nemore. whats with all these references to money? its shoot u dumb fuck. who talks about doing it all for the money? i have seen hundreds of shoots and i have never heard that. i thinku fucked up this shoot. u didnt shoot as justin tyme. u were shooting as the handler and u proved u have no concept of what a shoot truly is. i want to be all pissed off, but its just sad. your sad. u took the time to just throw insults towards someone u barely know. u dont know 1 fucking thing about me and u shoot on me. whatever. oh and hardcastle, i completely disgree with ganandor. i thought olberman was perfect in character. olberman has alwayus been hardcastle's #1 fan in the broadcast booth. ne one that actually reads every bit of slam would know that. so u played the character perfectly. but olberman gave very little love to the sin city saint. oh well, guess thats what u get for beiung a heel. damn.
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Post by miwwfke on Aug 11, 2005 21:37:29 GMT -5
ill just this shoot sucked dick. u can have your opinion or whatever, but u suck. brandon said it best in his reply and thanks brandon for sticking up for me. its supposed to be a shoot from justin tyme, not from your dumb ass. if i didnt use cm punk as the pic for my guy, u wouldnt have said that $hit. its just dumb. the whole interview was dumb. i was really interested in this, but if every shoot turns out like this 1, i aint reading nemore. whats with all these references to money? its shoot u dumb f**k. who talks about doing it all for the money? i have seen hundreds of shoots and i have never heard that. i thinku fucked up this shoot. u didnt shoot as justin tyme. u were shooting as the handler and u proved u have no concept of what a shoot truly is. i want to be all pissed off, but its just sad. your sad. u took the time to just throw insults towards someone u barely know. u dont know 1 f**k**g thing about me and u shoot on me. whatever. oh and hardcastle, i completely disgree with GANANDOR. i thought olberman was perfect in character. olberman has alwayus been hardcastle's #1 fan in the broadcast booth. ne one that actually reads every bit of slam would know that. so u played the character perfectly. but olberman gave very little love to the sin city saint. oh well, guess thats what u get for beiung a heel. damn. Ganador.  And I respect your opinion about Olberman. You've known the two announcers longer than I have, therefore I'm sure you're right in the comment that Olberman was in character correctly. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 11, 2005 22:19:00 GMT -5
Uhh....Yeah! Olberman is always kissing Hardcastle's ass. Thats why Patrick gets on him all the time about it. Olberman is a Hardcastle mark.
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Post by Justin Tyme-Can You Feel It?!? on Aug 14, 2005 22:10:24 GMT -5
ill just this shoot sucked dick. u can have your opinion or whatever, but u suck. brandon said it best in his reply and thanks brandon for sticking up for me. its supposed to be a shoot from justin tyme, not from your dumb ass. if i didnt use cm punk as the pic for my guy, u wouldnt have said that $hit. its just dumb. the whole interview was dumb. i was really interested in this, but if every shoot turns out like this 1, i aint reading nemore. whats with all these references to money? its shoot u dumb f**k. who talks about doing it all for the money? i have seen hundreds of shoots and i have never heard that. i thinku fucked up this shoot. u didnt shoot as justin tyme. u were shooting as the handler and u proved u have no concept of what a shoot truly is. i want to be all pissed off, but its just sad. your sad. u took the time to just throw insults towards someone u barely know. u dont know 1 f**k**g thing about me and u shoot on me. whatever. oh and hardcastle, i completely disgree with ganandor. i thought olberman was perfect in character. olberman has alwayus been hardcastle's #1 fan in the broadcast booth. ne one that actually reads every bit of slam would know that. so u played the character perfectly. but olberman gave very little love to the sin city saint. oh well, guess thats what u get for beiung a heel. damn. ' it is quite obvous that Gana is the only one who understands what a shoot is. a shoot isn't in charecter, it is from the person behind the charecters oppinion. now you can hate me if you wish but I spoke the truth. Saint, sorry if i offended you but I honestly feel you need to change some stuff so you are not just CM Punk in e-fed form. hate me because i tell the truth if you will but if you can't handle the heat, get out of the oven |
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 14, 2005 23:09:24 GMT -5
ill just this shoot sucked dick. u can have your opinion or whatever, but u suck. brandon said it best in his reply and thanks brandon for sticking up for me. its supposed to be a shoot from justin tyme, not from your dumb ass. if i didnt use cm punk as the pic for my guy, u wouldnt have said that $hit. its just dumb. the whole interview was dumb. i was really interested in this, but if every shoot turns out like this 1, i aint reading nemore. whats with all these references to money? its shoot u dumb f**k. who talks about doing it all for the money? i have seen hundreds of shoots and i have never heard that. i thinku fucked up this shoot. u didnt shoot as justin tyme. u were shooting as the handler and u proved u have no concept of what a shoot truly is. i want to be all pissed off, but its just sad. your sad. u took the time to just throw insults towards someone u barely know. u dont know 1 f**k**g thing about me and u shoot on me. whatever. oh and hardcastle, i completely disgree with ganandor. i thought olberman was perfect in character. olberman has alwayus been hardcastle's #1 fan in the broadcast booth. ne one that actually reads every bit of slam would know that. so u played the character perfectly. but olberman gave very little love to the sin city saint. oh well, guess thats what u get for beiung a heel. damn. ' it is quite obvous that Gana is the only one who understands what a shoot is. a shoot isn't in charecter, it is from the person behind the charecters oppinion. now you can hate me if you wish but I spoke the truth. Saint, sorry if i offended you but I honestly feel you need to change some stuff so you are not just CM Punk in e-fed form. hate me because i tell the truth if you will but if you can't handle the heat, get out of the oven I told you this before and I will say it again. Its you that doesn't understand a shoot. A real life shoot has no handler. It only has the actual person. The purpose of this shoot is for Justin Tyme to air out his feelings. Not Justin Tyme's handler. In fact, you bounce back and forth throughout the entire shoot talking like the handler and talking like Justin Tyme. Thats my opinion. But the fact that you still dont get that this was a shoot from Justin Tyme, worries me. Hopefully, the next shoot interview will go over better with someone who understands what a shoot is. I have tried to explain this to you, but you just continue to argue with me. The only part you had right was the fact that a shoot is not "in character". But the shoot is "real opinions of the character." I don't want your opinion. I want how Justin Tyme would perceive it. Like Brandon said. Brandon wouldnt shoot and say that Justin Tyme is a shape shifter. Some days he looks like London and some days like Hassan. Thats a shoot from The Assassin's handler. |
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Post by flaps on Aug 14, 2005 23:23:22 GMT -5
Well this is odd, you both have the right idea of a shoot but you both are confused over how a shoot is being done in this efed. In the efed world a shoot is what the handler things and not what the character thinks, least in most cases. The shoot Hardcastle is trying to get across is still a shoot but it's not as simple. The shoot he means is the actual thoughts of the character. It's a bit misleading since I've always thought with a efed character you don't actually have a real 'fake' person behind it to, what you see is what you get. There is no real right or wrong but I would say Tyme is more right when you think of it on the principal that when Edge does a promo he does it as Edge and he speaks about what Edge thinks of people. When Adam Copeland shoots, he says what he really thinks of people as Adam. With Tyme, lets call the person who controls him Bob and the made up Justin Tymes real name Tim. What a real shoot would be from just a fed perspective is what Bob thinks. What this is, and what Hardcastle is looking for, is what Tim thinks. What Tim thinks is a shoot from a plain efed view and the characters within the efeds view. But, from a real person, real life view a shoot for a efed would have been from Bob. So your kinda both right but I'd consider changing the name of Straight Shooting to cut out confusion. On a minor note, if it was from Tim's view FLAPS does not exisit  |
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Post by Bailey on Aug 15, 2005 7:50:34 GMT -5
Well this is odd, you both have the right idea of a shoot but you both are confused over how a shoot is being done in this efed. In the efed world a shoot is what the handler things and not what the character thinks, least in most cases. The shoot Hardcastle is trying to get across is still a shoot but it's not as simple. The shoot he means is the actual thoughts of the character. It's a bit misleading since I've always thought with a efed character you don't actually have a real 'fake' person behind it to, what you see is what you get. There is no real right or wrong but I would say Tyme is more right when you think of it on the principal that when Edge does a promo he does it as Edge and he speaks about what Edge thinks of people. When Adam Copeland shoots, he says what he really thinks of people as Adam. With Tyme, lets call the person who controls him Bob and the made up Justin Tymes real name Tim. What a real shoot would be from just a fed perspective is what Bob thinks. What this is, and what Hardcastle is looking for, is what Tim thinks. What Tim thinks is a shoot from a plain efed view and the characters within the efeds view. But, from a real person, real life view a shoot for a efed would have been from Bob. So your kinda both right but I'd consider changing the name of Straight Shooting to cut out confusion. On a minor note, if it was from Tim's view FLAPS does not exisit YAY FLAPS!  Your 2 Cents was definitely needed in this situation to clear up further confusion. |
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Post by ZMaster on Aug 15, 2005 13:53:19 GMT -5
I'll go next month. What I say will be ooc and that's about it. How 'bout it, we do a shoot from myself?
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Post by Bailey on Aug 15, 2005 16:09:48 GMT -5
I'll go next month. What I say will be ooc and that's about it. How 'bout it, we do a shoot from myself? I think the OOC shoot board is the same as the complaints...not really sure. I would love to hear what the quiet, yet domineering zMaster has to say. It would be like one of the McMahonn's doing a shoot. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 15, 2005 18:01:58 GMT -5
Well, Flaps....I hope you have been able to try and clear up the confusion. But my issue remains the fact that Tyme has no idea what a shoot is then. If he was shooting as the handler of Justin Tyme......then what the hell was he talking about "the money"? He mentions several times that he does it for the money. The handler of Justin Tyme does not get paid.
Brandon, I agree with you. The reason I did not want to a shoot with a handler, was b/c of the Complaint Board. Handlers can go there and say whats on their mind. The Shoot Interview is what is supposed to be on the mind of the character. I do believe that the situation is not as black and white as I had first thunk it. But I did explain to Tyme that the shoot was not to come from the handler. But he was supposed to get into character and give me his character's honest opinion on different subjects, by how his character sees them.
Z, I would do the next shoot with you, but I promised Bailey and Saku that whoever won the title would get the next shoot. Z.....would definitely be an interesting shoot. So how about 3rd?
I think I will do a poll on the Shoot Series. I will let the league decide on what type of shoot they want. Handler or character?
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Your 2 Cents was definitely needed in this situation to clear up further confusion. 
